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Peel and Curtis: They appeared at the
Birmingham Hippodrome
of the theatre wrote, "Peel & Curtis proclaim the
fact that
they are the only two Scotch Jews in captivity. They
supply a racy Humorous act in which agreeable
singing
is cleverly intermixed".
This 'snippet' of information was supplied by
Max Tyler of the Theatre History Archives. Meredyth Tayler tells us: Billy Curtis married my great Aunt Bessie Cousins. They settled in California. They had a daughter called Esther/Estelle, Esta- His Hebrew was Lazarus and his last name was Julius, which became Curtis when his family came over from the old country (they were probably from the same region that Grand-dad Coussins was from. He was #9 of 10, born in Edinburgh, right below Arthur's Seat, which was the Jewish ghetto at the time. He was born July 21st 1896 or 7, and died in February 1981. He would have been 89 yrs old. He left home at a very early age, probably 13 at most, and began traveling Great Britain and the World---he was in South Africa as a very young man himself. He also came to America as well, but return home at some point, met and married Bessie. Esta and I miss him very much. He babysat me a lot when I was very young. I loved hanging-out with my grand-dad---he was great at telling stories. He would put me on his lap and would always begin by saying "and now voyager..............." He loved to cook. He made the best Latkies and turkey vegetable soup I've ever eaten. To this day I can't eat a Latkie without comparing it to my Grand-dad's. I'm not sure but I think my Grand-father was already in California at the time when television was just getting off the ground (1952/3), and he never mentioned any offers of a T.V. show to my mother---but it would have been wonderful to have had Billy on T.V. ................BTY, Billy was "Leslie William or William Leslie Curtis, depending on the phase of the moon. Lazarus Julius (possibly Barnstein) In the days when people came to the United Kingdom and America , if the immigration officers of that time did not understand the last name they either dropped it or changed it to one that they could understand. (Esta)
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Peel and Curtis: They appeared at the
Birmingham Hippodrome
of the theatre wrote, "Peel & Curtis proclaim the
fact that
they are the only two Scotch Jews in captivity. They
supply a racy Humorous act in which agreeable
singing
is cleverly intermixed".
This 'snippet' of information was supplied by Max Tyler of the Theatre History Archives. Meredyth Tayler tells us: Billy Curtis married my great Aunt Bessie Cousins. They settled in California. They had a daughter called Esther/Estelle, Esta- His Hebrew was Lazarus and his last name was Julius, which became Curtis when his family came over from the old country (they were probably from the same region that Grand-dad Coussins was from. He was #9 of 10, born in Edinburgh, right below Arthur's Seat, which was the Jewish ghetto at the time. He was born July 21st 1896 or 7, and died in February 1981. He would have been 89 yrs old. He left home at a very early age, probably 13 at most, and began traveling Great Britain and the World---he was in South Africa as a very young man himself. He also came to America as well, but return home at some point, met and married Bessie. Esta and I miss him very much. He babysat me a lot when I was very young. I loved hanging-out with my grand-dad---he was great at telling stories. He would put me on his lap and would always begin by saying "and now voyager..............." He loved to cook. He made the best Latkies and turkey vegetable soup I've ever eaten. To this day I can't eat a Latkie without comparing it to my Grand-dad's. I'm not sure but I think my Grand-father was already in California at the time when television was just getting off the ground (1952/3), and he never mentioned any offers of a T.V. show to my mother---but it would have been wonderful to have had Billy on T.V. ................BTY, Billy was "Leslie William or William Leslie Curtis, depending on the phase of the moon. Lazarus Julius (possibly Barnstein) In the days when people came to the United Kingdom and America , if the immigration officers of that time did not understand the last name they either dropped it or changed it to one that they could understand. (Esta)
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21 st January 2008 Hi Craig, Philip and Meredyth One easy one. My mother and father never lived in Leeds . My mother was a Brighton girl (Hove actually!), but did spend some time in Glasgow with Daddy (Harold of course) shortly after they were married. This was in the old days when you couldn’t see the hills behind the city and everything closed on Sunday. My mother counted the months, days and hours she spent there. So you can see she didn’t particularly relish it or the north of England either. She told me that once when in a bar with my father and noticing that the locals were just drinking steadily she asked them why no darts? ‘Och lady’ they said, ‘if we had darts we’d be sticking them in each other!’. Times have changed now, of course, and I am very fond of Glasgow . Spent many happy child hood days there. By the way I have quite a few holiday stories that involve you in Southwick Craig! I also distinctly remember your Dad reading a letter that you sent home from South Africa saying you now knew the difference between a filet mignon and a grilled steak. As you put it, ‘about $30!’. Actually Philip, re the name, it could be that this was the case, but the name Shai is actually a name in its own right. I have friends (Jewish ones of course) whose kids are called Shai. It is Hebrew or Aramaic (an older language than Hebrew which, in biblical terms was comparatively recent) for gift. By the way, the mourners prayer is all in Aramaic though using Hebrew characters. Meredyth my father talked very fondly about his Uncle Billy and how much he liked him. So I knew a bit about him too. There is a famous story about a UK TV exec in the very early days of TV (pre or post war not sure) approaching Uncle Billy to do a TV show of his act (I think it was his Dame act as I recall the story Daddy told me), but he turned him down flat. As he said ‘what and use up all my material in one performance.’ This was a major issue for many of the performers in those days as the act would be used many times in many theatres around the country. With much less mobility and no mass media this was, of course, very possible. Finally on Papa – he claimed to me he was also a an acrobatic comedian (as was Chaplain). This means, I think that he did a lot of acrobatic falling over, a bit like the Chaplain drunk act (see the film Chaplain with Robert Downey Jnr. for an example). Being war blind killed this opportunity for him after returning home. He still said though, that the nigh patrol that blinded him saved his life. As this was the day before the battle of the Somme you can see why he thought this. Will write more later. Need to go now and listen to my little one play the piano (started late and am the baby here! So I have an 11 year old son and 6 – shortly this week to be 7 – year old daughter. Lovely to talk with you all. We should try a skype call Criag! Fondest best wishes Ricky
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CRAIG COUSSINS [mailto:craig.coussins@btinternet.com] 21st January 2008 Ref: Meredyth asked: I also think that Fay told me Great Uncle Hyman went to Siberia (maybe in the seventies) and found some additional family up there---do you know anything about this????? Philip replied: Hey Craig, Grandpa Hyman did indeed go to Russia in 1960/61 as he found out that he had a niece still living there unfortunately she had passed away but he did see her grave. I met her father in Leeds who I recall grandpa calling him Shai, my mother knew him as Uncle Shai. I expect that "Shai" is the diminutive for "Moshe" or Morris who was the oldest of the brothers and Craig, in Morris's basement he kept all his shoe equipment and I remember the various sizes of "awls" and the very hard thread that he would use for stitching the shoes, I remember that Denise and I were playing somewhere in the garden and I am sure that Harold and Pam lived in Leeds or did they Philip I will ask Ricky if Harold and Pam ever lived in Leeds . I don't think so but then again I do not really know. Ricky will fill that in. Also Philip. Do you remember where in Russia he visited? Siberia seems so unusual for a visit. Moscow, St. Pete etc are normal but elsewhere there were not too many Jews. Apropos the shoe making: I am a shoemaker and indeed , as a family, we have a history of being shoe makers. Maybe coincidence but then again? I would have said that its in the genes but then I don't make jeans, only shoes. My brother Paul makes jeans though-may its in his -sorry about that(:-o)) Craig Maybe I should set up a discussion site that allows us to answer all these truly interesting and important questions. I will speak to my web designer and see what he will suggest |
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However, it's wonderful to meet all of you. Who would have thought
this could ever have happened. I'm truly grateful for this experience.
Craig, I'm meeting with my Rabbi tomorrow and intend to give him all
of this information. I'm not positive, but as I said before---the
Chabad--Lubavitch are like the Jewish version of the Mormons. Genealogy
is very important to them and they keep adding and growing their
information as time goes on.
Esta has mentioned that great-grand-dad was a produce seller, which
is probably where my grand-mother (Bessie) and my mother got their love
of fruits and veg. Certainly coming to California was the right place
for them!
Since I'm Great Grandma's name sake, I was hoping that somebody had
additional information on her. Esta loved her very much. She told me
that she had the most incredible red hair you've ever seen----she said
it was a deep maroon color; like the color women get out of bottle these
days, and that she was the sweetest, most loving person in the world to
all of her children and husband. As for the shoemaker's in the family,
I wish I could make them, I have
some great ideas---all I do is collect them. I've lost count on how
many pair I have. Esta was a great one for collecting shoes too. I
thought it came from her---now I know where we got the bug.
It's raining in Southern California right now, despite what the song
says........Craig, I need to get into my garage and look for the
information you're asking for. It just might take a few days for me to
get to it (there's a 5 days storm forecast as of today, and we've had
some really hard rains lately. I know what your thinking , don't say
it....but for California, these have been doozies).
Craig, I know that Esta will be contacting you in the next few days.
Hopefully she'll have some additional info. that she can add to the
mix. What about Murtal (sp) or David. They must have some information
too---especially David from what Esta says, he spent a great deal of
time with Great Grand-ma's after he had finally met her.
Ricky, I'm not sure but I think my Grand-father was already in
California at the time when television was just getting off the ground
(1952/3), and he never mentioned any offers of a T.V. show to my
mother---but it would have been wonderful to have had Billy on T.V. ................BTY,
Billy was "Leslie William or William Leslie Curtis, depending on the
phase of the moon.
Here's some Billy Curtis FAC's for all:
His Hebrew was Lazarus and his last name was Julius, which became
Curtis when his family came over from the old country (they were
probably from the same region that Grand-dad Coussins was from. He was
#9 of 10, born in Edinburgh, right below Arthur's Seat, which was the
Jewish ghetto at the time. He was born July 21st 1896 or 7, and died in
February 1981. He would have been 89 yrs old. He left home at a very
early age, probably 13 at most, and began traveling Great Britain and
the World---he was in South Africa as a very young man himself. He also
came to America as well, but return home at some point, met and married
Bessie. Esta and I miss him very much. He babysat me a lot when I was
very young. I loved hanging-out with my grand-dad---he was great at
telling stories. He would put me on his lap and would always begin by
saying "and now voyager..............." He loved to cook. He made the
best Latkies and turkey vegetable soup I've ever eaten. To this day I
can't eat a Latkie without comparing it to my Grand-dad's.
Bye to all for now.............
Meradyth
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